But the story being pushed isn't 'demonstratively false'. I agree, the VPN industry is rife with shady business practices. > On one hand, there's anonymous websites, competing VPN companies, and hundreds of Twitter bots pushing a story that is demonstratively false (just check public records). However, this is meant for running over an untrusted network, not for maintaining internet anonymity. Better, don't trust any of them! Setup algo on a digital ocean droplet of your own: If you really want to hate protonvpn, use PIA, or use someone else.

Me? Just a happy protonvpn user who finds the oft repeated shilling for PIA dull. Also, the European Commission has investigated these exact claims, and would have privileged access to a lot of the business documents, and found the claims without merit.

We know they're legit because they said so in court under penalty of perjury. After all, PIA and ProtonVPN are a few of the only providers who've proven in courts they don't have logs of users.

I'd argue if it was a lie from ProtonVPN, it would have been in PIA's best interests to clear their name. If it was a lie, it would be easy for them (PIA) to prove under libel laws in the discovery phase of a trial. īut was conveniently never denied by PIA that I could ever find. It came from a protonvpn founder, an obviously biased source.

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